• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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      There’s a difference between KISS and just plain useless. These apps are like beginner code for people in high school.

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        I don’t even a little bit agree. You’re welcome to your opinion, but being an asshole just for the sake of it is a bad look.

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        Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the codebase because it’s too massive to maintain, with enough dependencies to make even a small child think he’s independent by comparison.

        All so that we can, uh, synchronize a markdown text file across 3 computers.

        These projects exist so that we don’t all have to re-invent the wheel every single time we need something simple. They have a purpose, even if they’re not pushing the envelope. I’ve developed a bunch of software to do extremely simple things for myself because all the existing options are massive and bloated and do a million more things than I need.

        I’m sure your projects look impressive on your resumé, though.

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          Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the code base because it’s too massive to maintain

          So much this. I recently had OneDev recommended to me as a forgejo alternative. I was told that it was “very lightweight.” Intrigued I tried it out. It fuckin’ runs java and is resource heavy as fuck. Just sitting idle it consumes almost 13% of VPS RAM: http://i.xno.dev/u/SGXxO2.png

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            You still have 63% RAM available in that screenshot, there are zero problems with Java using 13% RAM. It’s the same as the tired old trope of “ChRoMe Is EaTiNg My MeMoRy”. Unused memory is wasted memory if it can be used for caching instead, so unless you’re running out of available memory, there is no problem.

            Also, the JVM has a lot of options for configuring its various caches as well as when it allocates or releases memory. Maybe take a look at that first.

            Edit: Apparently people don’t want to hear this but don’t have any actual arguments to reply with. Sorry to ruin your “JaVa BaD” party.

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              Sad that you’re downvoted for being right.

              Java apps can be memory hogs, but anything else can be too. The jvm is exceptionally performant for persistently running apps.

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              Yeah. Why have RAM when you’re not gonna use it? The JVM is pretty efficient

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              Forejo isn’t an “app.” It’s a for-profit fork of Gitea… It’s a hosted git solution. Quite a bit more than “an app.”

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                The fuck is Forejo. I’m running a personal Forgejo instance and have contributed to the project. It is not for-profit.

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          And there’s a difference between utilitarian and idiotic as well. The fact you can’t tell the difference is a “you” problem, friend.

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        If you look at someone who’s mastered coding, you’ll realize that their code looks like a beginner

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          First off, no, this is 100% not true. That’s like saying a professional chef’s chicken soup will be the same as a beginner following the same recipe. Just, no.

          Second, I’m talking about the general idea and implementation. Example:

          Which is easier?

          1. Cloning and running a repo to install node deps, configuring dotenv variables, running node app, then opening a browser to input a domain name into a field to get a response back about domain ownership, OR…
          2. Opening a terminal and running whois somedomain.com and getting a response back. Code to illustrate.


          Which is easier?

          1. Configuring and running a compose to start a docker container to visit a browser to use a text editor, OR…
          2. Open a local text editor which every OS has available


          The cheeky nature of the projects aren’t lost on me, i just don’t see a point beyond basic coding exercises for them to exist. They’re getting social media hype and embracing that…cool, but anyone acting like this is some awesome new stuff is just delusional or flat wrong.