I’ve seen many threads suggesting products but they often don’t mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn’t be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

  • St0ner@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    12·
    11 hours ago

    I’ve tried to extol the virtues of FOSS for a long time. Not many people even care about it or their privacy, always parroting the adage “If i do nothing wrong what do I need to worry about” without a further thought.

    • Ilgaz@lemm.ee
      91·
      10 hours ago

      I kept saying it all over the place regarding the fascistic rejection of Russian (as in race) code and got flamed as result. These people use FOSS, especially GNU/GPL software and yet they have no clue about the license themselves.

  • Galolinn@lemmy.world
    1·
    11 hours ago

    I have been following some of these movements in the last few weeks and, at least the ones I know of, include FOSS in the alternatives to American products and services. So while I support what you say 100%, in my experience so far, it looks like most people are aware of this.

  • jrozycki@lemm.ee
    3·
    18 hours ago

    I think there is a different problem. Many of the best FOSS products are unknown to the general public ;/

  • Riley@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    1 day ago

    I always like to say the fruits of FOSS labour are the common heritage of mankind. It belongs to all of us as a public good, created and maintained by selfless workers. (Nevermind the fact that most FOSS projects are based out of Europe anyways).

    • Engywuck@lemm.ee
      8·
      1 day ago

      I think OP means that one shouldn’t boycott FOSS projects just because they are from USA. That said, I don’t like to be told what I have to do and don’t agree to “FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software”. My pc, my LAN, my rules.

      • not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
        21·
        12 hours ago

        you seem to hold your individual freedoms high, there is a kind of software i think you’ll really like

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        1 day ago

        I don’t like to be told what I have to do and don’t agree to “FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software”. My pc, my LAN, my rules.

        …he said, without a hint of irony.

        Meanwhile, “my PC, my LAN, my rules” is precisely the reason I do agree with always preferring FOSS to corporate software.

    • chebra@mstdn.io
      3·
      1 day ago

      @Irelephant

      > “Hey guys, I want to leave X, should I go to Bluesky or Threads? What? Mastodon? Never heard of that. Looks very complicated, I’ll pass”
      > – CEO, founder, IT wizz on LinkedIn

      Every time!

      • adbenitez@lemmy.ml
        11·
        1 day ago

        Or the classic “guys I am leaving WhatsApp, moved my whole family to Signal, another centralized US-based silo that requires phone numbers and runs on AWS, CloudFlare, etc.”

        • a Kendrick fan@lemmy.ml
          1·
          21 hours ago

          Thanks for sticking it to the Signal shills, I use Telegram and I understand how bad it is but I’d never use signal in a million years

        • easily3667@lemmus.orgEnglish
          41·
          1 day ago

          Signal: over a decade of leaking nothing and providing a great service for free, with some weird hiccups along the way like cryptocurrency.

          Privacy “advocates”: fuck signal

          • adbenitez@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            1 day ago
            1. if they leaked something you wouldn’t know because US government law doesn’t allow them to disclose if they requested data.
            2. uses AWS servers that also the gov could ask for access to Amazon directly without even talking to Signal, being centralized and depending on AWS infra is also a weakness.
            3. needing phone numbers to register, often tied to passport and it is super easy to get your whole network when compromising 1 device
            4. all centralized services start nice, attracting users, once they have you, and money starts being a problem… meet: enshitification
            • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
              8·
              19 hours ago

              1. If they were leaking there would be prosecutors using the evidence in court, on the public record.

              2. It doesn’t matter what infrastructure that they use because the service provides end to end encryption. This remains secure even if a third party is able to record all of the traffic between the two devices.

              3. Has there ever been a single instance where a Signal client had a RCE exploit? Of all of the software on your phone likely to be exploited, signal is low on the list (your browser is where they get you).

              4. Enshittification is a reason to leave, speculation about maybe possible enshittification in the future is not.

        • tkr@jlai.lu
          1·
          1 day ago

          we’re not classic, we’re advanced nerds engineers : signal is one church without any interoperability, so we’ve moved to both SIP and XMPP variants using differents provider in the family : everything is decentralized, exactly like email (we dont use gafam ones). It’s not that hard to enjoy xmpp, and really decentralized tools, a bit like for SIP (we have several Voip providers here).

        • qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 day ago

          i mean… it is massively better, but yes it still sucks. but what do you move friends and family to? last i looked into element it was not an option for several reasons, and i don’t think anyone would switch to basically noname apps like simplex or similar, even if they might be decent solutions. i really want the last few contacts i have on whatsapp to move, but i’m not gonna push hard to get them to use signal just to get it enshittified in the near future. also a few switched to telegram, which while not facebook, is not really better mainly because it doesn’t even e2ee by default.

          • EySkibidiBabBab@feddit.dk
            0·
            1 day ago

            What’s the reasons against Element :)? Currently testing it with some friends of mine, before trying to lure my family on it instead of iMessage. So would be interested in why you don’t think it’s feasible.

            • chebra@mstdn.io
              1·
              1 day ago

              @EySkibidiBabBab Element? That’s just one of the apps, and frankly, not the best one. You are looking for Matrix. For android I’d recommend FluffyChat, for desktop/web Cinny. For iOS I’d recommend throwing it to a lake.

  • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    1·
    1 day ago

    FOSS is definitely not boycotting capitalism, but its still an objectively good thing. I see FOSS work as a way for relatively rich imperial core citizens to give back to the world.

    Definitely do not boycott FOSS projects.

    • rmrf@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      20 hours ago

      I don’t understand why you say FOSS isn’t boycotting capitalism. I don’t disagree, but I also don’t know enough to agree yet.

      • doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
        1·
        19 hours ago

        Look at the success of Linux. It’s not in opposition to capitalism, it’s ba kernel widely used by capitalists. If Linux was truly a threat to capitalism, google wouldn’t use it in their phones.

        I still think that Linux and open source are great. They’re just not neccesarily anticapitalist. They definitely can be in certain circumstances, and definitely make some rent seeking impossible

        • AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
          1·
          13 hours ago

          To be fair, what Google is doing is a perversion of the original intent of Linux. It used to be a direct competitor to commercial OSs. Google turned it into one.

  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 day ago

    There are some pretty corporate “open core” software companies tho, that’s a more grey area