Update was from 3 days ago, I’m really hopeful ladybird could be a future browser option to help break the stranglehold chrome has over the market, while Mozilla is struggling to find meaningful direction.
It seems like an exciting project with monthly progress updates :) they keep chipping away at compatibility.
I hope they can do it. Mozilla hasn’t fundamentally changed from where they were at least a year ago (re: their inability to clearly communicate policy “changes”), but the fact that they don’t seem to know what concerns their users and how to communicate in a way that doesn’t stoke their fears—it just makes them harder to work with and recommend.
Hopefully Ladybird can inject some much-needed competition into browsers.
Wouldn’t forking Mozilla provide a stronger base than an entirely new browser?
Not if it ties the fork into specific licenses. The other issue is that the internet should not be dominated by two and a half engines (Safari’s being the half). It creates an environment where they can collude to force the direction of the internet, where they are potential single points of failure, or where they can force users into bad terms of service.
Take this hypothetical: I make Super Browser (SB), but I fork it from Firefox (FF). SB looks and functions completely differently from FF, but it still uses FF’s Gecko engine to render the web. No matter what changes I make, I’m still at the mercy of Mozilla and their priorities.
This leaves few choices for developers and users alike, and it doesn’t encourage the companies at the top to innovate. Because, what are people gonna do? Leave? For what alternative?
I definitely agree. They feel deeply confused about their audience and like they perpetually flounder trying to find a sustainable direction or future :/
Ootl, what happened with Mozilla ? I use Firefox and very happy with it so this sounds surprising
https://tilvids.com/w/fAvzwwK2abKCGUea6FT9va
There’s also bs like this:
https://www.maketecheasier.com/firefox-testing-new-privacy-feature-with-meta/
The browser is cool but Mozilla as a company is an absolute trainwreck of borked public communication (again and again and again) and bullshit products that noone asked for (Pocket, AI etc).
In short, they’re trying to make much more money to pay the executives’ 7 figure salaries, and are giving up browser privacy to do so.
7 figure salary ? for an oss project ? that doesn’t sound good or sustainable at all
Oh, I think they’re communicating just fine. They’re signalling the direction they plan to take and it’s not a good one.
I disagree, but I understand why you think that.
I didn’t know they’d be able to tap into the Firefox profiling tools, that’s neat! Probably great data to have as they get into debugging of more complex websites.
The pro-FOSS stance would be to get your communications off of being exclusively proprietary platforms. Developer & early adopter freedom & privacy matters—but instead they are choosing Discord & Microsoft GitHub as their only platforms.
True, but I’m not one to let perfect be the enemy of good.
It so annoying they use those platforms ONLY tho 🙁
I mean, we gotta draw the line somewhere. Seems reasonable to not want official community discussions to happen in a proprietary platform. We got where we are with the internet because of complacency.
Thanks for the share! Pretty encouraging to see so much progress. Alpha in 2026!
Is that in the video or just your hope? If that’s the case I missed it, and that would be super exciting!
I’ve not seen the video but that’s what’s on the website.
Aw, fuck yeah! I’m glad you mentioned it :)
It’s in the video too! With this level of coverage and functionality it seems like a reasonable goal IMO
The part with the progress graph compared to other browsers over time is especially cool!
